G’day viewers, my name’s Graeme Stevenson, and I’d like to invite you to come on a journey of creativity and learning and adventure through the series Colour In Your Life. There’s an artist in every family throughout the world. Lots of times there’s an artist deep down inside all of us as well. So grab your kids, your brothers, your sister, your aunties, uncles and mums and dads and come and see how some of the best artists do what they do. (Music Plays) (Graeme) Well hi folks, and welcome back to Colour In Your Life. Well, we are in Melbourne today, and we are at the Auspicious Arts Incubator down here which is a fantastic place where many, many artists gather, and they learn from some incredible people about how to manage their careers. And we’re going to be spending the day with Natalie Ellis. Natalie, (Natalie) Nice to meet you, Graeme. (Graeme) thanks so much for being here. Natalie’s had a very interesting path, came our from England, was just recently wasn’t it? (Natalie) Yeah, at the beginning of two thousand and eighteen I came to Australia. (Graeme) Yeah, and it’s fantastic. And she’s a resin artist, and we’re going to be going through with her today with some resin paintings. But your original influence really came from your dad many years ago. (Natalie) Yeah, so my dad painted, and so that was a big influence on me, and my mum brought me lots if paint so I was always painting as a kid. (Graeme) That’s fantastic. But you sort of went through the process or the struggle that most artists do, is that you ended up starting your own business which wasn’t based on arts, (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) and you had a recruitment company, is that right? (Natalie) Yeah, so I did follow art all the way through to collage, and then did the whole get a real job thing, (Graeme) Yeah, yeah. (Natalie) which is really boring; I don’t recommend it. And yeah, I just didn’t believe at that point that I could do my art, so I didn’t paint for quite a few years, and then all of a sudden I had this recruitment company. I was bored out of my mind and I went oh, screw this, I need to do something creative, so I started painting again. (Graeme) Yeah. (Natalie) I started watching lots of Colour In Your Life. (Graeme) Poor girl. (Natalie) Yeah, and that’s when I got back into it and it’s been great. (Graeme) And you were saying before that you really had an epiphany at one stage about your work and what was happening with it. (Natalie) Yeah, so this is a really cool moment. (Graeme) Yeah. (Natalie) So I was lying in bed in France. I’d just spent the winter snow- boarding in France, like you do. And I was about to drift off to sleep and I literally just set bolt upright in bed and in like a second flat (Graeme) Yeah. (Natalie) I had just dozens of images come to me of pieces of art that I wanted to paint. (Graeme) That’s amazing. (Natalie) I had an inspiration that I just knew I needed to do my art; I new I needed to do resin art, because I could imagine the flow and that was what was really drawing me. And I knew that I wanted to use my art as a force for good in the world, so I wanted any sales that I got from my art, or from workshops, I want to buy books for people, (Graeme) Oh, that’s fantastic. (Natalie) inspirational books for people in need. (Natalie) So yeah, it all came to me in this epiphany moment. (Graeme) So you’re also an avid snow- boarder as well (Natalie) I am, yes. (Graeme) which is where you get your love of the mountains (Natalie) Yeah, and the ocean from as well. (Natalie) Yeah, yeah, I was drawn to the mountains and the ocean. (Graeme) Yeah, but part of, part of what you’re doing as well, with the spiritual side you’re doing is that you’re an avid vegan as well. (Natalie) Yeah, I think that’s really important. (Graeme) And here you are actually putting pieces together on the ocean, which is really part and parcel of what that belief system is about. (Natalie) Exactly, exactly, because a lot of damage to the ocean is happening from animal agriculture, so (Graeme) Of course. (Natalie) it’s kind of cool that I’m painting the ocean. (Graeme) Great philosophy and great empathy for the planet that we live on as well. (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) And it’s not a diet is it? (Natalie) No. It’s amazing – I love being vegan; it’s delicious. (Graeme) Okay, there you go. Well, I’m going to step out of right now, and I’m going to let Natalie take over what she’s going to do today. And I’m going to ask some questions from the side, but we’ll go from there. (Graeme) Alright, Natalie, there’s a few things involved in that you do with particular varying products for this. So can you explain the products that you’re using, and what goes on with them? (Natalie) Alright, cool, so I’m using art resin today, which is like absolute favourite resin. It’s non-toxic, it’s really quick to mix; you only have to mix it for three minutes, rather than ten. I’ve got some paints which I’ll talk through as we go, and then I’ve got my wooden board. So this is made up a local carpenter, so it’s just a masonite wooden board. You have to use wood, because a canvas would sag in the middle. And all I’ve done is paint it with – I actually use ceiling paint as a base, just a base layer on the wooden board. And then I’ve used some acrylic paint to give it a bit of a base colour, so I’ve used a blue, and like a sandy colour and it just gives the colour a bit of depth. And then a really important thing is that I use a spirit level to make sure that it’s perfectly level, because otherwise it can all slide off. So just checking that it’s level that way, it’s level here, level here, is level that way, and that way, and that way. So perfect. So first of all, very important you put gloves on because it’s very messy, so I’ll put my gloves on. And we’re going to mix equal parts, resin and hardener, so it’s essential it has to be absolutely perfect. I always do it by eye, rather than trust in numbers so, start off with the resin. (Graeme) I’m surprised than there’s actually a resin that’s called Art Resin. (Natalie) I know, so specifically for artists. (Graeme) Great stuff. (Natalie) So I’m going to be quite generous today and use quite a lot. (Graeme) Next one. (Natalie) Yep, so this is the hardener. Oh, look at that – perfect. (Graeme) It’s a perfect pour. (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) So now that you’ve got them level, (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) what happens now? (Natalie) So now we’re going to mix them together, so Art Resin’s really good cause you only have to mix it for three minutes. (Graeme) Yeah. (Natalie) So you literally pour one into the other. (Graeme) So in doing that, how long is this going to take before this goes off, and how long do you have to stir it for? (Natalie) So I’m stirring it for three minutes, (Graeme) Yeah. (Natalie) and then we’ve got around forty-five minutes to work with it. After that point it just gets a bit too sticky, and then it takes about twenty-four hours until it’s dry to touch. And then it’s ready to hang after about forty-eight hours. (Graeme) Amazing. (Natalie) So yeah, I give it a really good mix. (Graeme) So in becoming a resin artist, how did you come across resin art? (Natalie) I just started seeing it pop up online. But in my meditations I was doing, I was just getting a lot of images of quite flowing colours, and artwork and I knew I wanted to do something that was quite flowing. Like I always used to paint with acrylic which I love, but it’s obviously very detailed, and I just wanted to something a bit different. So I just started seeing resin popping up online, and as soon as I gave it a go, I loved it. Now I’m just going to start pouring resin into some individual jugs, so these are going to be my different colours. So we’re going to do an ocean piece today of course. So now I’m just going to mix together a few different colours. So I use just a mixture of acrylics, glass inks, Golden Acrylics. I really like Golden Acrylics; they’ve got a really nice colour to them. (Graeme) Aha. (Natalie) And also some powder pigment as well, I’ve got a powder pigment of gold, which is great. I like to create lots of different colours. So I might pour a bit on now and then add a bit more colour and I’m just going to put on some lighter colour. So this is going to be near where it breaks. (Graeme) Look at that. (Natalie) And then I’m actually going to have it underneath some darker bits too. As you can see these Golden High Flow paints got a really delicious deep colour to them. So this is where my hands get a bit messy with resin, cause I start moving it around. So you can use your hands, I use a hairdryer as well; that’s a really cool thing to use, cause it’s a cold day it definitely just needs a bit of heat. So I’m going to get my trusty hairdryer on it, so it’s going to get a bit noisy now. (Natalie) Okay, so we starting to build up a bit of a picture. So another really cool thing to use is a blow torch, and this does a couple of things. So first of all it gets the bubbles out, but second of all, I actually use it a bit like a paint brush to move the resin around. So I’m just going to give it a quick once over at the stage we’re at now. (Graeme) So the heat is actually really it’s not drying it out because that’s the chemical process, so the heat actually helps to move it around. (Natalie) It does. Like you can actually really like blend colours using the blow torch. (Graeme) Aha. (Natalie) You do have to move quite quickly, and obviously be careful, cause you’ve got a blow torch in your hand. So I’m going to create a bit of a sand effect now. So I’ve separated into three different cups and I’m going to just be a bit wild today; I’m actually going to have a bit of pink in my sand – because why not. I’m going to have a pinky-golden sandy colour. (Graeme) You’ve just put some gold in there have you? (Natalie) I have. So this gorgeous Langridge Gold powder. So I’ve created a bit of a goldie-pinky colour, I’m just going to add a bit more white to that actually. So I just keep playing around until I’ve created a colour that I thinks really nice. (Graeme) And another great thing that you do, is you do do workshops as well. And we’re actually at the headquarters of Auspicious Arts Incubator in Bank Street, in Melbourne, where you guys have been working with John Paul for a while now, and really created some fantastic things here. (Natalie) Yeah, so John Paul at Auspicious Art, he’s been great. He’s created an amazing course that I did called the Artist Transformation School. (Graeme) Aha. (Natalie) And be basically is teaching artists how to make businesses from their art, and to be able to actually make a living from what they love to do. So it’s really amazing the work he’s doing. So I’ve just now poured together a few different sandy colours, cause I don’t like to just do one; I like to mix a few together, so I’m going to pour on like a pinky-sandy colour. (Graeme) So is there separation of those colours or they sort of all blended in? (Natalie) Yeah, there is a bit of separation which I love. (Graeme) Yeah. (Natalie) You don’t quite know how the different colours are all going to interact with each other, and then that’s what gets the really interesting effects. (Graeme) Yeah, some of the other pieces that you’ve done, the colour scheme goes from warm to cool (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) which is your Sensual Flow series as well, (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) and you’ve got these reds and pinks and yellows. They’re very, very dynamic; these are great corporate pieces. I think that work that you do would lend really well in a corporate arena by any means. (Natalie) Yeah, exactly, and a lot of those colours I think are definitely inspired by the more spiritual side of my art. Which is why in my workshops, this is the point I want to get people to, is letting go of perfection, letting go of your head, which is trying to over and figure out how to do everything, and just follow in this instinct that we’ve all got. (Graeme) I noticed in one of your workshops everybody looked like they’ve painted a Crab Nebula, (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) and then put a forest scene in front of it. (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) It’s sort of like looking up at the ORA Borealis, or something. (Natalie) Yeah, that was really fun. So yeah, they’re the workshops I’ve been running in the UK, and I’ve actually got other artists in the UK that are running those workshops for me now, so that’s quite cool. (Graeme) So you’ve franchised yourself. (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) That’s the way. (Natalie) It’s starting to come together, and now I’m going to do my favourite part which is create the crashing wave effect with some white. So now the trusty hairdryer comes back in. (Natalie) And then to get that lacing effect – this is where the blow torch comes into it. (Graeme) Okay. In a sense you’re painting with fire. (Natalie) Basically, yeah. This becomes (Graeme) That’s pretty amazing. (Natalie) my paint brush. (Graeme) I think with something like this, and then with a teacher like you, and the workshops that you do, it would put some great value into peoples lives. (Natalie) Definitely. Creativity is so powerful when you truly just give into it. (Graeme) So what’s your website address? (Natalie) So my website is www dot Natalie Ellis Art dot com, and that’s going to keep people updated on the workshops, because I’ll be doing them in the UK, in Australia, and hopefully other places in the world. (Graeme) That’s great. (Natalie) I’m a bit of a traveler, so any excuse to travel, so yeah. I’d love to do them all over the place, so that’s the best place to find out, is my website. (Graeme) Wonderful, well that’s amazing, Natalie. It really is fantastic. But we’re going to move onto the next one, and have a look at that too. (Natalie) Alright, lets do another one. (Graeme) I’m with John Paul Fischbach, who is the CEO of the Auspicious Arts Incubator, in Melbourne. Natalie is part and parcel of his group and what they do. And the the Incubator itself actually helps artists to manage to their career, and better guide them in what they’re doing as far as their work is concerned, their emotions, I mean literally putting a whole business package together. John Paul, tell me a little bit more about Auspicious? (John Paul) Well, Natalie’s a good example. So it’s an an artist who has an incredible passion, an incredible talent. But at some point the talent just isn’t enough, and you need those marketing skill, and business skills that no one ever taught us as artists. (Graeme) Sure. (John Paul) So you know, I’m a theatre and film director in background, but no one ever taught us the basics of business and marketing. So it’s about understanding how to take that passion you have, and turn that into your business, so that you can make a living doing the thing you love, because I’m sick and tired of a world with starving artists. Lets have no more starving artists. (Graeme) Well you’ve actually written a book on behalf of that as well, and it basically says: no more starving artists. I would recommend this because John Paul has a huge amount of experience within theatre, within arts, and helping people manage what they do. And part and parcel of that is you and I both well know, is that you can leave a collage course, you can be an artist starting out early in your career, and nobody really teaches you anything about it at all do they? (John Paull) No, not at all. So we created a course that’s called the Artists Transformation School, because at a certain point you transform yourself, and your arts practice into a business. So that’s what Natalie’s done. So she’s gone through the Artists Transformation School, and came out the other side with this incredible business. She’s going to make some of her money from her art, and she’s going to make some of her money from her creativity. (Graeme) So, John Paul, if somebody wants to get hold of your book, what’s the website address they need to go to? (John Paul) Www dot no more starving artists book dot com. (Graeme) That sounds fabulous. And they have a limited amount of free books to give away, so I would suggest if you really want a great, great book that’s going to tell you how to manage your career even better than what you’e doing now, come in and see the guys. I think it’s fantastic. We’re going to get back to Natalie, and she’s going to do another painting for us. (Graeme) Alright Natalie, well we’re going to get onto your second piece today, and it’s a long one, and it’s a bit more of a free pour. Tell us about that? (Natalie) Yeah, so I call this one a dirty pour, so basically we’re going to put lots of colours in one jug, and we’re going to pour it, and we’re going to hopefully watch some magic happen. (Graeme) Cool, so how do we start? (Natalie) Alright, so same way as last time. We’re just going to pour and measure our resin to start off with. And Art Resin have all the measurements I believe on their website, if you need to know how much to use for a certain sized board. So yeah, I recommend checking that out. (Graeme) So where do you get those little jugs from with the measurements on? Just buy them from the two dollar shop or something? (Natalie) Yeah, exactly. (Graeme) Yes, you’ve got to be really precise don’t you? (Natalie) Yeah, otherwise it will not cure properly. So that’s now perfect. Alright, so I’m going to tip them both into a bigger jug, and it’s good to just get all of the last bits out of the bottom, so you’re not wasting it. Whilst I’m doing this, this is when I start to think about how much of each colour I want. If I want to make any last minute changes to my colour palette. But yeah, this is the time where you start looking at the board and going right, what do I want this to look like? Okay, so that’s mixed. (Graeme) Lovely. (Natalie) So get that out of the way. So I’m going to split it up into a few different jugs now. So I’ve been thinking about how much of each colour I want whist I was mixing. But this is a really easy technique; like literally anybody could just give this a go, and do this. So I’m going to have a bit of white. Okay, and I am going to have some dark cherry colour, so that’s a nice colour. (Graeme) Rich isn’t it? (Natalie) I’m going to go for a teal kind of colour now. (Graeme) And this is with the Golden’s? (Natalie) Yeah, again this is with the Golden Fluid range, which are just amazing colours. (Graeme) Tell me about El Gouna Blue, what does that mean? (Natalie) Well, that is inspired by a kitesurfing and and wake-boarding trip I had to Egypt, in a beautiful place called El Gouna, and the water is just like gorgeously clear. Yeah, it now has a lovely owner in America, so (Graeme) Wonderful. (Natalie) its international. (Graeme) It sounds like for a young woman you’ve had a pretty adventurous life too. (Natalie) Yeah, I love adventure. (Graeme) There’s nothing wrong with that. (Natalie) Adventure and fun – that’s what it’s all about. (Graeme) Yep. (Natalie) So, I’m literally just going to gently pour them in on top of each other, all in one bucket. The last piece had a more of a composition to it and more detail. And this one’s just really going to be quite abstract. Okay, I think we’re ready to go. (Graeme) Oh, look at that. (Natalie) So this is very exciting. (Graeme) Witches brew. (Natalie) So I have a nice big jug of colour. (Graeme) Oh, look at that. (Natalie) You can see now loads of different cool effect coming through, and it’s very bright and you can just keep tilting it to make sure the whole board is covered. (Graeme) So Natalie, were did you come up with this technique? Its purely experimental or… (Natalie) It kind of was purely experimental, yeah. It was just one day I though I’ll put them all in to one jug and see what happens, and it had an amazing effect. So yeah, now when I want to just do a fun piece, this is what I do. So I’ll get the blow torch out in a second. And so this is the type of perfect thing to do at one of my workshops, because you know, you can imagine getting into a meditation, or just really relaxing and then just picking what colours you are drawn to that day. (Graeme) So what’s your website address again? (Natalie) So the website is Natalie Ellis Art dot com. (Graeme) And you can go in there and have a look at what Natalie’s doing. You give a whole bunch of free stuff away as well don’t you? (Natalie) Yeah, so I often give away free prints of my artwork. So if you’re interested in that, then definitely jump on the website and sign up, so that you can be eligible for free print giveaways. And that’s where I’ll put all the the information about the workshops and everything as well. (Graeme) Fantastic. (Natalie) Yeah, but I’m happy with that, so that’s looking pretty cool. (Graeme) Another great masterpiece created by Natalie Ellis. (Graeme) Well, what a great day guys. Absolutely fascinating Natalie, what you did today was just great. I thought the other piece that we were working on – the sea one, was just tremendous, it really was. Now your website address again? (Natalie) Natalie Ellis Art dot com. (Graeme) And if you want to come in, you’ve got some free things to give away – some free prints. (Natalie) Yeah. (Graeme) Go in, sign up, and then learn the materials that you need to do this as well. A really fascinating day. I wanted to thank John Paul as well, from Auspicious Arts Incubator; they have some great stuff as well. And John Paul is a fantastic guy that really helps to promote artists, and teaches them what to do with their careers. So come and see him and get his book as well. You’ll get a lot out of it; it’s really amazing. Once again, we’re having a great time down in Melbourne. We’re going to head off. You can come and see us on Facebook; you can come and see us on YouTube. And you can always come into our website, Colour In Your Life dot com dot au, come and say hi. There’s so many things we’ve got going on these days from all over the world. So come in and be part of what we’re doing. But until we see you guys again, as always, remember: make sure you put some colour in your life, and we’ll see you next time. Bye now. (Natalie) Bye.